ROCKINRECORD MAILING LIST
list pop #1: Tapio
Väisänen list pop #2 Jose
||The rockinrecords mailing list is intended for the discussion of rock 'n'
roll and rhythm & blues RECORDS including genres like doowop,
rockabilly, hillbilly, country boogie, neo-rockabilly, surf instrumentals etc.
||Discographical information on the songs, lyrics and biographical
information on musical artists of the 1950s is encouraged, along with reviews of CD and
vinyl reissues of 1950s music. Additionally, discussions of modern rockabilly recordings
(authentic or not) post to 1950's are welcome.
||Posts that are strongly discouraged include: recipes,
grease types, clothes, vintage shopping, lifestyle, vintage equipment, jukeboxes, cars,
beers, Setzer bashing, authentic or not debates, UNLESS these posts have something to do
with records. These posts belong to rockabilly lifestyle mailing list (which is the
original rockabilly mailing list) or to some other mailing list/newsgroup.
||Posts that are inappropriate include: flames, trolls, spams and binaries.
||Note about the binaries:
large files, including music and graphics should not be posted.
There are several alternative ways to distribute binary files that do not affect others
- Put them on your web page and notify mailing list.
- Put them on an FTP server and notify mailing list.
- Post them to a binary newsgroup and notify mailing list.
- Notify mailing list that those who want them may send you e-mail.
||Commercial, wanted, for-sale, and personal ads are also strongly
discouraged, since they belong to other mailing lists or newsgroups. However occasional
information from dealers who sell rockin' records is allowed. Posting catalogs to the
mailing list is strongly discouraged.
- Put them on your web page and notify mailing list.
Although the great majority of topics fit neatly into both
mailing lists, certain topics do not fit precisely. In such cases the originator of the
thread has three options:
1. Determine to which one of the two mailing lists the thread is most
relevant and post only to that mailing list.
2. Split the thread and post separately to two mailing lists. Each thread would cover only
that material relevant to that mailing list. If appropriate each of the original messages
should be customized for the mailing list to which it is posted. It would usually be
appropriate to additionally mention that separate posts have been made to the other
3. Crosspost to both mailing lists. Crossposting among these lists should be kept to a
minimum. Still, there are situations in which this is the most appropriate option.
There are two conflicting goals when deciding which option
to choose in a particular situation:
* to reach as many as possible of the people who would be interested in
* to minimize the amount of material posted in a mailing list that is not specifically
related to that mailing list (another way of saying this is: to reach as FEW people as
possible who would NOT be interested in the thread).
These goals must be balanced somehow, and care must be taken in deciding which of the 3
options is most optimal for a given situation.
Once one of these options is chosen, there are other
things to keep in mind.
When someone decides that it is best to post to a specific mailing list
even though the subject matter extends beyond the bounds of the mailing list, the thread
will include material not within the specified bounds of that mailing list. A prerequisite
of this decision is the conclusion that people in that mailing list who would be
interested in the topic would also be interested in the material outside the bounds of
that mailing list. Threads that begin properly in a particular mailing list, then expand
related discussion into other areas are acceptable -- unless and until the subject evolves
so that it clearly belongs in the other mailing list. Once that happens, the thread, or
portions of it, should be redirected in that other mailing list.
When someone chooses the next option and decides it is best to post separately to two or
more mailing lists, participants should keep in mind that parallel discussions are being
carried out in multiple mailing lists. As such, overlap in the discussions should be
When someone decides that crossposting is the best option, participants in the thread
should take care as the thread progresses, since the thread is crossposted to multiple
mailing lists and may diverge in directions that are no longer relevant to some of the
mailing lists. Similarly to the first option, when this happens the divergent subthread
should be redirected to only that mailing list to which the subthread is relevant. One
thing to keep in mind when chosing this option to begin with is that many people may not
be aware that the thread is crossposted, so they may diverge in a direction
relevant only to their mailing list.
Here's a guideline to you all, before you post a message to
ask yourself, is it possible that there could have been an
article or a review of the artist/record on some of the following magazines:
Rollin' Rock magazine
Now Dig This
Bim Bam Boom
Blue Suede News
Whiskey, Women, ...
Too Much Noise
Southern & Rockin'
Blues & Rhythm
Not Fade Away
If the answer is yes then you can post it.
PART TWO: GENERAL NETIQUETTE
|What is Netiquette?
It is the time-honored and time-tested rules of the road for the INTERNET. I am not going
to cover everything, but there are basic rules that if followed, would make things in
these two lists a lot nicer.
||A new person to the "Net" or mailing lists should spend a little
time getting his/her feet wet by just observing and being a lurker (quiet watcher) in
his/her favorite lists. This is how you learn what should or shouldn't be posted in that
||Don't troll. That is don't go into a list just to start trouble.
||Don't Spam. Don't post a junk post to several mailing lists, particularly
when you know that the post has nothing to do with any of the mailing lists.
- Examples: "Make money fast" or "This really works."
||When responding to a post. Make sure you see if the poster has asked for
any responses to be done by e-mail. If the person who starts the thread only wants
responses by e-mail, please respect his wish.
||When responding to a post. Cut out (delete) any parts that you are not
commenting on. Leaving everything in is a waste of space and a waste of time for people
reading your post, and also makes it more difficult for someone to find and understand
what you have written. Also, make sure that your comments start on a new line and aren't
just appended to a line of the original post since otherwise it will appear that your
comments were part of the original post.
||On the other hand, when responding to a post, make sure you do quote
enough of the original post or otherwise establish the context for your response so that
people understand what you are talking about. Although you have just read the post to
which you are responding and know what you are responding to, others reading your post may
not have just read the post to which you are responding and may not know what you are
talking about. It is usually necessary to only quote a few lines or briefly paraphrase the
statement or question to which you are responding.
||DON'T just respond to the list with something like "I agree" or
"Right on" or something like that. Those responses don't add anything to the
original post. In those cases where you agree with someone but have nothing to add, e-mail
your support to that person. If you post something, make sure that you are contributing
something to the mailing list rather than just adding noise. The most common culprit will
quote 50 lines and then add his own "I agree" at the end.
||Don't post large binary files. Your favorite picture of Chuck Berry might
be neat, but it takes up a lot of space, and serves no real purpose to the lists.
||Don't start or get into flame wars. These are arguments that can get
heated and ugly within the mailing list. Any screaming at someone, if you must, needs to
be done by e-mail. If you are irritated by someone, don't drag the rest of the group into
the fight. The next advice is really hard to follow-I have trouble with this. Try and
ignore the inflammatory post and let it go. The whole thing is usually forgotten in a few
days anyway. Keeping things going in the list doesn't let the problem die on its own.
||Don't use mailing lists to send test posts. Almost all ISPs have a special
newsgroups to send test posts. One of the more irritating things to see as a header in a
mailing list, is THIS IS A TEST--DO NOT READ, or something similar.